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	<title>Comments on: Episode 33 &#8211; Doef&#8217;s Greenhouses</title>
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	<description>From the cellar, wild, garden, local farm</description>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 13:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CCH - I suggest just googling their website, and sending them an email!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CCH &#8211; I suggest just googling their website, and sending them an email!</p>
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		<title>By: chi cheong ho</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinkossowan.com/episode-33-doefs-greenhouses/#comment-20901</link>
		<dc:creator>chi cheong ho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 04:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Kevin,  any way to contact the owner for a tour of facilities?  my father and I have a keen interest in integrated farming and would love to visit them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kevin,  any way to contact the owner for a tour of facilities?  my father and I have a keen interest in integrated farming and would love to visit them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Aulenbach</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinkossowan.com/episode-33-doefs-greenhouses/#comment-19108</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Aulenbach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2012 03:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent video(s), Kevin. I&#039;m curious to know if it is possible to identify a local cuke once I&#039;m actually in the store. I had no idea this much produce was coming out of our region.

-Jerry]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent video(s), Kevin. I&#8217;m curious to know if it is possible to identify a local cuke once I&#8217;m actually in the store. I had no idea this much produce was coming out of our region.</p>
<p>-Jerry</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2012 04:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sanders - you&#039;re welcome, hope it didn&#039;t come across preachy, as I completely get questioning the ag model in general.
Becky - Glad you liked it. Pretty crazy, heh? You can see their greenhouse on google earth, from space. ;) 6 miles west of lacombe, AB, 3.5 miles north. You can count the sections to get you there from satellite photos.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sanders &#8211; you&#8217;re welcome, hope it didn&#8217;t come across preachy, as I completely get questioning the ag model in general.<br />
Becky &#8211; Glad you liked it. Pretty crazy, heh? You can see their greenhouse on google earth, from space. ;) 6 miles west of lacombe, AB, 3.5 miles north. You can count the sections to get you there from satellite photos.</p>
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		<title>By: becky3086</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinkossowan.com/episode-33-doefs-greenhouses/#comment-19065</link>
		<dc:creator>becky3086</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 17:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought this was a really interesting video. I really had no idea that there would be huge greenhouse systems like this to grow things like tomatoes, peppers and cucumbers. I would love to see a picture of the 11 acres of greenhouses. I just can&#039;t imagine what that would look like. It does kind of make me understand why peppers are so ridiculously expensive in the stores. 
I, too, think it is a lot of electricity but I am sure that like any good company they would always be looking for ways to reduce that bill.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought this was a really interesting video. I really had no idea that there would be huge greenhouse systems like this to grow things like tomatoes, peppers and cucumbers. I would love to see a picture of the 11 acres of greenhouses. I just can&#8217;t imagine what that would look like. It does kind of make me understand why peppers are so ridiculously expensive in the stores.<br />
I, too, think it is a lot of electricity but I am sure that like any good company they would always be looking for ways to reduce that bill.</p>
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		<title>By: Sanders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sanders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 01:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great points. Thanks for answering them so quickly. 

I agree with a lot of them, just wanted to hear some thoughts on it. Certainly meeting a demand for the majority and I definitely trust Canadian standards over Mexico&#039;s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great points. Thanks for answering them so quickly. </p>
<p>I agree with a lot of them, just wanted to hear some thoughts on it. Certainly meeting a demand for the majority and I definitely trust Canadian standards over Mexico&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2012 16:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sanders - great questions, and figured they&#039;d come up. A few thoughts along that train of thought:

To play devil&#039;s advocate: Despite the energy inputs [and trust me, I&#039;m all for passive food production and storage], I&#039;d sooner have a product that was grown an hour away than a few thousand miles away, for one. I&#039;d love to see the numbers on cost of energy input per cucumber, for ex, vs something that&#039;s imported and trucked - I suspect on a energycost/unit would be relatively low, keeping in mind they only need it a few months in the year and can spread it over a lot of units of food. It does support the local economy [although far from a small business in this case, though not sure size is as relevant as location of ownership], and I think it supports local food sovereignty. I&#039;d also be more comfortable eating food produced under Canadian law when it comes to pesticides and other chemical inputs. They also have a better shot at providing a fresh product in a market where time is critical to quality. I&#039;m sure there are other good reasons folks can think of and weigh in on here. 

Keep in mind that I am that guy that&#039;s passionate about shoulder season growing with passive-energy cold-frames and cold hardy crops, passive root cellaring, grow-it-all-myself, seasonal-only + abstinence produce eating, etc. I live in that world. But this is a whole other world that exists to serve demand of the majority. The big questions in my mind are not &#039;why produce food under a roof&#039;, but more &#039;why not produce veg that are cold hardy [spinach, kales, collards, mache, leeks, etc]&#039; as it seems it would be sensible to do so. But I know why. People want fresh cucumbers and tomatoes in January. The growers are talented and entrepreneurial folks, I&#039;m sure they could grow whatever it was folks demanded. 

Thanks again for bringing it up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sanders &#8211; great questions, and figured they&#8217;d come up. A few thoughts along that train of thought:</p>
<p>To play devil&#8217;s advocate: Despite the energy inputs [and trust me, I'm all for passive food production and storage], I&#8217;d sooner have a product that was grown an hour away than a few thousand miles away, for one. I&#8217;d love to see the numbers on cost of energy input per cucumber, for ex, vs something that&#8217;s imported and trucked &#8211; I suspect on a energycost/unit would be relatively low, keeping in mind they only need it a few months in the year and can spread it over a lot of units of food. It does support the local economy [although far from a small business in this case, though not sure size is as relevant as location of ownership], and I think it supports local food sovereignty. I&#8217;d also be more comfortable eating food produced under Canadian law when it comes to pesticides and other chemical inputs. They also have a better shot at providing a fresh product in a market where time is critical to quality. I&#8217;m sure there are other good reasons folks can think of and weigh in on here. </p>
<p>Keep in mind that I am that guy that&#8217;s passionate about shoulder season growing with passive-energy cold-frames and cold hardy crops, passive root cellaring, grow-it-all-myself, seasonal-only + abstinence produce eating, etc. I live in that world. But this is a whole other world that exists to serve demand of the majority. The big questions in my mind are not &#8216;why produce food under a roof&#8217;, but more &#8216;why not produce veg that are cold hardy [spinach, kales, collards, mache, leeks, etc]&#8216; as it seems it would be sensible to do so. But I know why. People want fresh cucumbers and tomatoes in January. The growers are talented and entrepreneurial folks, I&#8217;m sure they could grow whatever it was folks demanded. </p>
<p>Thanks again for bringing it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Sanders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sanders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2012 16:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understand it&#039;s local, but what really is the point of buying local when there are so many inputs. Only to support the local economy and a small business?

I just mean &quot;food miles&quot; means nothing here when the crops are grown using so much energy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand it&#8217;s local, but what really is the point of buying local when there are so many inputs. Only to support the local economy and a small business?</p>
<p>I just mean &#8220;food miles&#8221; means nothing here when the crops are grown using so much energy</p>
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		<title>By: Mohyuddin Mirza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mohyuddin Mirza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2012 15:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was great to see this video in the context of locally grown fresh produce. Joe Doef and his family has done a great service to the greenhouse industry in Alberta and Canada by adopting new technolgies and also supplying fresh produce year round.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was great to see this video in the context of locally grown fresh produce. Joe Doef and his family has done a great service to the greenhouse industry in Alberta and Canada by adopting new technolgies and also supplying fresh produce year round.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinkossowan.com/episode-33-doefs-greenhouses/#comment-18990</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2012 13:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Bruce - they have 11 acres under roof, and he mentioned the breakdown of acres per crop. A good portion of it is under plastic roof - very interesting design actually, and the newest builds are glass which are more durable and let more light through. One thing I found interesting was that the tracks you see in the photo are the hot water tubing, but also serve as tracks for the harvesting cart setups. They don&#039;t propagate the plants there as it takes a sterile environment, they get them when they&#039;re maybe a foot tall from a grower in BC I believe Eric said. Good to hear from you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bruce &#8211; they have 11 acres under roof, and he mentioned the breakdown of acres per crop. A good portion of it is under plastic roof &#8211; very interesting design actually, and the newest builds are glass which are more durable and let more light through. One thing I found interesting was that the tracks you see in the photo are the hot water tubing, but also serve as tracks for the harvesting cart setups. They don&#8217;t propagate the plants there as it takes a sterile environment, they get them when they&#8217;re maybe a foot tall from a grower in BC I believe Eric said. Good to hear from you.</p>
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