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	<title>Comments on: Episode 39 &#8211; Backyard Hens, Part 3</title>
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		<title>By: A Canadian Foodie</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Canadian Foodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 07:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Love the post - especially the idea of a child taking care of the chicken that feeds her - and the ethical concern of a mother raising a child knowing what she is doing is not wrong, but having these ridiculous bylaws that say it is.
and...
YOU paid to be there? I am grinning from ear to ear - not because I know this isn&#039;t important to you - I know it is - but you know why - as you used to say - and maybe still do - on your bio...(something about frugality???)

And I still haven&#039;t paid for my spot yet. I want to be a part of this discussion and contribute with every fibre of my being as this is the very work I have been doing for the last few years in my spare time, like so many of us... yet, I am thinking about just going and hoping they want to hear what i have to say so much that they will just let it be.... but that would defeat the point of having all of the other voices there. 

Mack&#039;s post today made a very good point: On Wednesday the City announced Food in the City, a conference taking place on May 25 and 26. It’s “a key step in the development of a city-wide food and agriculture strategy” and is listed as one the possible public involvement opportunities for the project. Anyone is welcome to participate, assuming you have $175 to spend. That’s completely wrong, as Liane wrote. I had the opportunity to ask the two City officials behind the event about this on Friday, and they told me that the conference is not a public involvement event (which obviously is not true). Just one more thing to add to the list of public involvement failures. 
http://www.edmonton.ca/city_government/urban_planning_and_design/food-and-agriculture-public-involvement.aspx
http://blog.mastermaq.ca/2011/03/23/the-city-of-edmonton-is-failing-at-public-involvement/

These new beginnings are hard - and I want to work together in an inclusive and collaborative manner, but I do not want to have to pay to give my time.
:)
V]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the post &#8211; especially the idea of a child taking care of the chicken that feeds her &#8211; and the ethical concern of a mother raising a child knowing what she is doing is not wrong, but having these ridiculous bylaws that say it is.<br />
and&#8230;<br />
YOU paid to be there? I am grinning from ear to ear &#8211; not because I know this isn&#8217;t important to you &#8211; I know it is &#8211; but you know why &#8211; as you used to say &#8211; and maybe still do &#8211; on your bio&#8230;(something about frugality???)</p>
<p>And I still haven&#8217;t paid for my spot yet. I want to be a part of this discussion and contribute with every fibre of my being as this is the very work I have been doing for the last few years in my spare time, like so many of us&#8230; yet, I am thinking about just going and hoping they want to hear what i have to say so much that they will just let it be&#8230;. but that would defeat the point of having all of the other voices there. </p>
<p>Mack&#8217;s post today made a very good point: On Wednesday the City announced Food in the City, a conference taking place on May 25 and 26. It’s “a key step in the development of a city-wide food and agriculture strategy” and is listed as one the possible public involvement opportunities for the project. Anyone is welcome to participate, assuming you have $175 to spend. That’s completely wrong, as Liane wrote. I had the opportunity to ask the two City officials behind the event about this on Friday, and they told me that the conference is not a public involvement event (which obviously is not true). Just one more thing to add to the list of public involvement failures.<br />
<a href="http://www.edmonton.ca/city_government/urban_planning_and_design/food-and-agriculture-public-involvement.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.edmonton.ca/city_government/urban_planning_and_design/food-and-agriculture-public-involvement.aspx</a><br />
<a href="http://blog.mastermaq.ca/2011/03/23/the-city-of-edmonton-is-failing-at-public-involvement/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.mastermaq.ca/2011/03/23/the-city-of-edmonton-is-failing-at-public-involvement/</a></p>
<p>These new beginnings are hard &#8211; and I want to work together in an inclusive and collaborative manner, but I do not want to have to pay to give my time.<br />
:)<br />
V</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinkossowan.com/episode-38-backyard-hens-part-3/#comment-21715</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 18:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another great post. I find the cost associated with the conference to be offensive because it is clearly not a genuine attempt to engage those who are impacted. I am very concerned with urban food production issues, and had planned to participate in as much of this dialogue as I could, but the cost of the conference is prohibitive to my attendance. I am honestly not sure if I can afford it, and I&#039;m sure I&#039;m not alone. It&#039;s a shame because some of the people who would benefit most from a good urban agriculture policy - and the ability to easily and legally produce their own food in the city- are those with limited financial resources, and yet they are likely not to be heard in this process. I&#039;m very glad to hear that you have made the decision to attend, and I hope there will be a post about it. Thanks again for this awesome blog!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another great post. I find the cost associated with the conference to be offensive because it is clearly not a genuine attempt to engage those who are impacted. I am very concerned with urban food production issues, and had planned to participate in as much of this dialogue as I could, but the cost of the conference is prohibitive to my attendance. I am honestly not sure if I can afford it, and I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;m not alone. It&#8217;s a shame because some of the people who would benefit most from a good urban agriculture policy &#8211; and the ability to easily and legally produce their own food in the city- are those with limited financial resources, and yet they are likely not to be heard in this process. I&#8217;m very glad to hear that you have made the decision to attend, and I hope there will be a post about it. Thanks again for this awesome blog!</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://www.kevinkossowan.com/episode-38-backyard-hens-part-3/#comment-21628</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 03:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll be at that food conference. Kind of miffed that we have to pay to &#039;share our voices&#039;, but like you - I&#039;m too curious as to what the city has up their sleeves to skip it. Thanks for another awesome video.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll be at that food conference. Kind of miffed that we have to pay to &#8216;share our voices&#8217;, but like you &#8211; I&#8217;m too curious as to what the city has up their sleeves to skip it. Thanks for another awesome video.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce king</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce king</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And I do like the bit about &quot;you have to pay to be part of the rulemaking process&quot;.  That&#039;s very nice -- put the bribes and stuff up front and in the open.  In the states we let people farm and then fine them.  This is progressive!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I do like the bit about &#8220;you have to pay to be part of the rulemaking process&#8221;.  That&#8217;s very nice &#8212; put the bribes and stuff up front and in the open.  In the states we let people farm and then fine them.  This is progressive!</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce king</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce king</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I started farming I had no idea how political growing food is.  And how regulated.  And how much people who don&#039;t do it care about how you do it, and in fact want to tell you how you should do it.  

It&#039;s very odd.  Everyone &quot;knows&quot; how farming should be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I started farming I had no idea how political growing food is.  And how regulated.  And how much people who don&#8217;t do it care about how you do it, and in fact want to tell you how you should do it.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s very odd.  Everyone &#8220;knows&#8221; how farming should be.</p>
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